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As a dating coach who works with men, I’ve heard one question asked many, many times. Frustrated, lonely, and disappointed, my clients (and many male friends, family and strangers) ask, why is dating so hard for guys?
First, I like to remind everyone that dating is difficult for everyone these days. Women have just as many complaints. Some of the complaints overlap, but there are certainly difficulties that are unique to both sexes.
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This article is going to focus on why dating is so difficult for guys, as I examine the challenges that uniquely impact men. I have no desire to revel in bad energy, negativity, or toxicity, so I’m not “blame” women as some authors do (nor blame men). This also isn’t meant to be a pity party to justify whining or blaming. The solution to any challenging issue is to see the obstacle clearly, take responsibility, and change what you can that is within your control (this is Stoicism 101). If you just want to whine, complain, or blame without taking any personal action, then you are in the wrong place.
I want to start out by saying that yes, dating is objectively hard for guys right now, and is harder than in the past. A recent survey, for example, revealed that 28% of men under 30 are essentially dateless and sexless, and not by choice. The number of women in this scenario was only 18%, suggesting that men seem to have it harder than women in this regard. Also, to show you how bad things are in 2020, in 2008 only 10% of men reported being celibate in this way. This is an almost 300% increase in just a decade!
Online Dating Sucks
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Online dating seems like a video game. You get on the app, do what you’re supposed to do (photo, profile, swiping, etc.) and you happily reach the goal (a great relationship). If you can get through 8 levels of Super Mario Brothers, then you can certainly make online dating work!
Anyone who’s tried online dating knows this is total bullshit. Online dating is more like a slot machine. You want the big prize and that’s why you play. But, the odds of getting it aren’t great.
While you think you’ll win the lottery (a relationship or maybe sex), your experience is more like that sad woman who spends all day at the casino, chucking quarters in the slot machine while hunched over dead inside, to end the day breaking even at best.
While online dating sucks for women, it really, really sucks for guys. Really. Here are a few crazy stats
- Women swipe right (like) on only 4.5 percent of guys on Tinder (Men swipe right 62 percent of the time)!!
- Women judge 80 percent of male profiles as “unattractive” in some way
- 70 percent of Tinder users reported never going on a date
- If the average man, under average conditions, wants to be 99% certain he’ll receive a reply to a message online he will need to send 114 messages (women only have to send 25). Yes, read that again.
- The top 10% of men clean up, monopolizing the attention of most women, while the bottom 50% of men are fighting for the attention of less than 5% of women, at least on the Hinge app.
- In one study, when an attractive women swiped right on all men, she got 600 matches in 4 hours. Yes, read that again. This shows how competitive these apps are for men.
- This makes sense, because Tinder is 78% men, and other dating apps are similarly male-dominated.
Depressed yet? If you’re a guy trying to get a date and you find online dating frustrating as hell, you can see why.
Real World Dating Sucks (For Many Men)
If online dating is a virtual raging dumpster fire, then you can meet people in the “real world” right? Well, yes and no. While it’s much easier to form a connection in person (and there is much less competition), many people have very few resources or avenues to find a date this way.
The Western world today is more disconnected than ever. Most people don’t know their neighbors, have few friends, and wouldn’t even know where to find community events.
Many men simple don’t have friends. The likelihood of being friendless triples if you’re a man from his 20s to late middle age. Many men only have a couple of friends, but 11 percent of single men have zero friends.
Yet, how do people meet romantic partners? It’s through friends. By far. It’s not even close. One study showed that 39 percent of couples met through friends, although this number is going down.
So, if men don’t have a friend group or few community connections, where do you meet women? Well it involves randomly approaching women, whether at bars or even the grocery. And, while this is possible (and I do it), it’s not exactly easy. It’s no wonder people ask why is dating so hard for guys? As a result, many guys just “check out.”
#MeToo Movement
For those unaware, the #MeToo movement is an anti-sexual assault and anti-sexual harassment campaign that focused especially on eradicating those behaviors in the workplace. One positive aspect of the movement is that it has drawn attention to toxic workplace behaviors of some men.
However, from a dating perspective, it’s also created additional dating hurdles and challenges for good men who have never engaged in harassing behaviors.
The #MeToo movement has made many men reluctant to engage women, even in an appropriate manner, in environments where they previously would have. In addition, many workplaces tightened rules which make trying to date there dangerous for one’s career.
Many couples in the past met in the workplace (one study says 15 percent). In the current climate, those numbers will certainly decline and both men and women will have lost another avenue to potentially meet their life partner. This will inevitably cause more men to rely on online dating, which as I just mentioned, sucks.
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She’s Just Not That Into You
It’s been shown over and over again that men consistently overestimate how much women are actually attracted to them (interestingly, women underestimate). Guys think women are into them, when the women are not. Men also tend to overestimate their own attractiveness.
I always joke that most women I know can have thirty guys messaging them and still wonder “am I attractive?” whereas a guy can have one woman smile at him in a month and he thinks he’s God’s gift to women, as he is using his 10-year-old T-shirt as a napkin to wipe barbecue sauce off his face.
Why does this make dating difficult for men?
First, many guys think they are a “catch” when they clearly aren’t. Even what they might think are selling points (e.g. having a job, “only” being 30 pounds overweight, above average height, having their own place) really just make them average or invisible to most women. It’s like “hey baby, I have the bare minimum society expects of me going for me…let’s chat and then go get a Little Caesar’s Pizza…on me!”
Second, guys look at the behavior of women in their lives like smiling, laughing, and even talking to them as a green light for a date. They perceive friendliness (and sometimes forced friendliness like a cashier) as romantic interest when it clearly isn’t.
Women Have Many Options
If you spent a year desperately looking for work and sending in resumes, then got one job offer, you’d be over the moon and instantly take it. However, if you were flooded with employers calling you daily, not only would you not send out a bunch of resumes, but you would sit back, take your time and pick the best.
Beautiful women have options. They have countless men “sliding into their DMs,” hundreds of likes on Instagram photos, matches numbering in the hundreds and even thousands on Tinder and Bumble, and get hit on while walking down the street. Yet, in the end, they might have a crush on their boss and stay in most weekends with their cat because they don’t even like most of the men in their lives (see previous point).
Don’t believe me? Check out the photo on the right, taken from a real Tinder account by us…25,000 likes on Tinder. Also refer back to the study I mentioned above where women can get hundreds of likes in a few hours.
In one fascinating experiment on OKCupid involving fake profiles, even some of the “least attractive” female profiles got more messages than the most attractive men. The least attractive man got zero messages over a four month period. The least attractive woman received eleven.
So, even the “not so beautiful” women have some options, even if they might not take them. The ugly and below average guys might not even have the chance to be rejected.
But, aren’t the sex ratios even? Isn’t there one guy for every girl? Well, kind of. But, that’s like saying there’s enough money in the world for everyone to have a certain amount. The sexual economy works a lot like the actual economy: extreme inequality.
As I mentioned earlier, in the 18-30 age bracket, 28 percent of men are involuntarily celibate while only 18 percent of women reported this. If you ask: “why is dating so hard for guys?” part of the reason is because a lot of men want to get laid and aren’t. Those numbers clearly show some men are monopolizing more than one woman, while other guys are getting nothing.
Also, when you look at the data from the online dating app Hinge I also referenced earlier, the top 1 percent of men received 16 percent of female likes. In addition, the bottom 50 percent of men got 4.3 percent of female likes. These stats are absolutely insane and blow any notion of equality in dating out of the water. The “one percenters” of attraction clean up just like the “one percenters” of wealth.
To make this clearer, based roughly on the data above, imagine going to a party with 100 single men and single women. In the room, one guy has 16 women talking to him, 9 other guys are talking to 36 women, and you have 50 guys standing around with 4 women showing interest in them.
The point here is that there are a lot of guys out there competing for the attention of women. And, most of them are getting lost in the noise. Even if you are an amazing, attractive guy (for real, not perceived), she might not even see your message because of all the losers crowding her inbox!
Modern Men Just Aren’t Measuring Up
Another reason dating is hard for men is because modern men just aren’t as attractive and dateable as in the past. Women typically date men who are higher in social, educational, and financial status. They also are generally attracted to men who are assertive, muscular, dominant, and ambitious. At the very least, men with these traits end up dating a lot of women, largely because men with these traits are bold and take risks.
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And, modern guys just aren’t very dateable based on all of this. For example, more young men live with their parents than young women do.Men are less educated than women, and rates of obesity among men are skyrocketing. All of these factors mean that among men, testosterone levels are at all time lows. Men with higher testosterone are more likely to have the traits that women find attractive. While this means higher T guys will clean up in the dating world, it also means that dating is more challenging for the average guy (this also explains why more men are sexless than in the past).
In short, a lot of men are more boys than men, and let’s be honest, society encourages this at all points in a guy’s life including being in an educational system that punishes creativity and students that won’t sit still for 8 hours.
I was sitting at a restaurant a few days ago and this 20-something-ish guy was going off about some topic. He sounded whiny, took life way too seriously, and came across like a middle-schooler in almost every way. The woman with him looked bored and even talked louder and looked my direction as if to say “help, this boy is bothering me!”
Also, I should add, that not only have the number of people on the autism spectrum increased in recent years, but more men than women are on the spectrum, which means a greater percentage of men (especially young men) will struggle with the mental and emotional processing necessary to make romantic connections.
The Solution?
I know this sounds like bad news, but there is a light at the end of the tunnel. So we know online dating is tough, women are picky with options, it’s tough out there, and guys just aren’t measuring up.
So let’s imagine you’re training for a marathon, and you twist your ankle at one point while training, your running buddy flakes on you a lot, and it rains for 10 days straight leading up to it. You can choose one of two paths: you quit and then bitch about it, or you rise to the occasion in each of those cases.
Any guy can improve himself in a multitude of ways. Most aspects of your life can be transformed to be the man a woman craves and desires.’
This can include losing weight and getting in shape (muscularity is very important), developing a more assertive personality, changing your body language, learning to flirt, projecting and getting power and more! For many guys it may mean practicing and developing various social skills that men in the past found came more naturally.
Remember no one is owed a date. Just because you think you’re awesome doesn’t mean a woman should date you or give you attention. If you truly want to date the women of your dreams, become the man who is worthy of their time and attention. Will it involve hard work? Probably! But, how badly do you want it?
I’ve seen these changes, not only in myself, but in my clients. I used to be a boring, dateless “nice guy” who changed his ways and now dates beautiful women. And, the traits that help you become more attractive (charisma, boldness, dressing better, etc) will ALWAYS spill over into success in other areas, including your career.
We wrote two books that can help guys out (women, if you are reading this because your brother, son, etc, is struggling, buy him a copy!). But be warned: these are books for guys who WANT to rise to the occasion and do something. If your view is that you’d rather bitch, moan, and discuss the problem of dating rather than take action, for real, please don’t buy our books because it will just be a waste of time.
One is Be Popular Now, which is a general overview of social skills, charm, charisma, and dating skills for men. The other is Size Doesn’t Matter: The Short Man’s Handbook Of Dating And Relationship Success. We know that a lot of shorter guys feel stuck and at a huge dating disadvantage in modern society, and this impacts their self esteem negatively.
For women looking date older men, or who are already dating someone 60 or older, many of the rules and expectations you’ve grown accustomed to in your youth have drastically changed. For example, when dating older men, you’re dealing with someone who has decades of life experience, compared to someone in their 30s or 40s, who may still be figuring out their life. On the flip side, some tried and true dating rules apply regardless of how old you get. If you’re wondering what 60-year-old men in relationships are like, here’s what some of the experts say you should expect.
1. They’re not good at talking about their feelings.
Men, in general, are not good about expressing their feelings and even more so for men who are older. “Few men in the over 60 generation are practiced in talking about their feelings. This means that patience is the key to getting men to reveal their emotions, and it’s key for women not to judge what men share because that will turn them off sharing with you again,” says Ken Solin, a relationship author and columnist.
2. You’re competing with lots of other women.
Single men over 60 are a vanishing demographic. “Men in America die five years earlier than women. According to the U.S. Census Bureau, for every single man aged 60 there are three and a half single women,” says Rich Gosse, author and chairman of The Society of Single Professionals.
3. They generally do not date women in their own age bracket.
“The average 60-year-old woman dates 68-year-old men (and there are very few bachelors still alive and dating in this age bracket). The solution is to date younger, not older men,” says Gosse.
4. Be ready to ditch the old geezer stereotype.
“It doesn’t always hold true since many older men exercise regularly, still work, and actively pursue their hobbies. So, if you assume you’re in for a boring, slow relationship, you could be wrong. If anything, many guys in their 60s have a lot of material resources and want to live life to the fullest,” says Jonathan Bennett, a certified counselor and relationship coach. You might be in for more of an adventure than you expected.
5. Many men over 60 are still looking for hot, sexy women.
Every man has his own definition of what is hot and sexy. “In many cases, these men may look for younger women because they’re still interested in having sex, but not necessarily in building relationships. Their minds are still locked into what turned them on when they were younger,” says Davida Rappaport, an adult dating expert.
6. They rather settle quickly than date extensively.
“My date-coaching clients over 60 frequently ask why men go immediately from one relationship to the next without any pause. I explain that few men take the time to process their feelings regarding a failed relationship, preferring to jump into the next one instead. I advise my clients not to date any men divorced less than a year for this reason,” says Solin.
7. They still want sex.
“Just because people are older doesn’t mean their sex drive is non-existent. In fact, from 2000-2010, the CDC reported that STDs among older individuals doubled. There’s a good chance the guy you date will have a strong sex drive and the ability to act on it,” says Bennett.
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8. Many men over 60 are retired.
“These men often want to travel and are on the go—looking for adventures and new things to do and explore. If you’re able to take time off and travel—weekends and/or otherwise, there are a lot of men out there who are looking for you. However, if you’re not financially equipped or have too many obligations, these types of men are not for you,” says Rappaport.
9. Some men over 60 may have young children still.
“If you’re prepared to deal with an ex-wife and make time to do things with your guy’s children, you might be ok looking for someone with young children or shared custody arrangements,” says Rappaport.
10. Don’t hold your breath if he says, “I’ll call you.”
Often there is no follow up. “It’s difficult for men to look a women in the eye and tell her he’s not interested in seeing her again,” explains Solin. “So, instead they utter the famous three words. Women should look a man in the eye at the end of a coffee date and ask him whether or not he’s interested in another date.”
11. They’re technically savvy.
Newsflash! Men over 60 use smartphones…”More older men than ever are using social media, smartphones, and other electronic methods to connect with others, including people they date. So, even if a guy is older, you can’t assume he’s technologically illiterate. If you want to keep his time and attention, you might have to embrace new technology, just to keep up,” says Bennett.
12. People over sixty have full lives.
“Children, grandchildren, work, groups, etc., so finding time to be dating or be with someone who is more mature can be a bit difficult to schedule. You will figure it out if you both are willing to make the time,” says Rappaport.
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